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bardghost Isu
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Posted - 2015.06.28 17:45:43 -
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Brandi Wiseman wrote:Might there be another explanation? The super weapon was originally discharged in the location. Could there have been some residual effect that weakened the drifter ships when they warped to the same location, especially if there may be some link between the technology used to power their own super weapon?
I am not normally a religious person but it would be a great coincidence indeed if the choice of location for the summit itself held the key to destroying drifter forces.
The only way we could find that out would be to engage them there again to see if the effects are the same. |

bardghost Isu
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Posted - 2015.06.29 11:46:27 -
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I feel that we need to set up a mission to find what this was and what we could potentially have available to us that is remotely similar or that at least would give us the upper hand in battles with them...
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bardghost Isu
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Posted - 2015.06.29 11:48:16 -
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Corraidhin Farsaidh wrote:Utari Onzo wrote:I cannot confirm the flash of light, as I must admit my attention was on following fleet orders. However, I do confirm I hear the sounds. Multiple times. I can also confirm that before anyone had a chance to repond or open fire, several drifter battleships already had their shields severely damaged (namely missing their 'blue shield')
I conferred with my superiors, and especially with Lt Kernher, and I am certain something weakened those Drifters. Whether it was a divine act of God, or something else, that caused that specifically I cannot say. However I am certain God still smiled on us that day as we successfully destroyed the Drifter threat, thought at great cost. In terms of losses could I ask what was the rough number of Allied fleet members? It may help others in quantifying the Drifter threat to know what was required to counter a 100 ship Drifter fleet that was already seriously damaged in some manner. Last Numbers I saw Was In The 200 Mark But I May Be Wrong
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bardghost Isu
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Posted - 2015.06.29 12:05:42 -
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I Thought He Was Asking How many Ships Were On The Field... Deepest Sympathies To The Families Of The Fallen. But This is Why We Need To Find A Way To Fight Them. |

bardghost Isu
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Posted - 2015.06.29 12:45:35 -
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H1de0 wrote:Rytha Main wrote:I will iterate once and for all.
There were blinding flashes of light and horrific sounds of discharge.
I do not use boosters or any other sort of drugs.
It happened at least twice, and subsequent to those discharges, I was then able to tear through their shields. They did not have a secondary shield, and they were significantly weakened.
If you didn't see it, then you were not looking in the right direction, because it happened. That is a very intriguing development. If it can be confirmed in any way of course. Despite the skeptical scientist within me crying to ask about brain reactions to battle fatigue, ecstasy feelings of any sorts known to erupt during such events etc. basically any kind of reaction that can lead to hallucinations (please don't take it personally), for the sake of the argument let's assume that what You saw truly had occurred. (I wish to omit discussing potential divinity of this event and consider a device of any sorts as it's source) Have You received reports of PIE, CVA or any other pilots present on the field being able to examine Drifter ships wrecks and/or retrieve any parts (focusing on shield generators, power relays, capacitor batteries etc.)? Researching the nature of the damage taken by those would help us to determine if any uncommon weapon types and/or disruption devices where used.
I agree that we need to find what is responsible for this as it will give us the upper hand in the fights with the drifters |

bardghost Isu
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Posted - 2015.06.29 16:59:03 -
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Brandi Wiseman wrote:bardghost Isu wrote:Brandi Wiseman wrote:Might there be another explanation? The super weapon was originally discharged in the location. Could there have been some residual effect that weakened the drifter ships when they warped to the same location, especially if there may be some link between the technology used to power their own super weapon?
I am not normally a religious person but it would be a great coincidence indeed if the choice of location for the summit itself held the key to destroying drifter forces. The only way we could find that out would be to engage them there again to see if the effects are the same. I certainly hope another engagement is not considered necessary to test a theory. The loss of life would, at best, be 'counterproductive'. Surely there are sensor logs from ships that survived the encounter that can be studied; this, in addition, to visual descriptions of events and recordings when compared to time-stamps of activity (I speak in particular of the time stamps relating to the notification that shield systems had been compromised). Unfortunately, my own sensor logs were seemingly completely destroyed along with the wholesale destruction of my ship otherwise I should be glad to pass these to the Amarr Navy for further study. I still maintain my hypothesis that environmental considerations may have impacted on the perceived vulnerability. I arrived early to the summit and spent some time examining the wrecks from the previous incident. Wrecks of capital ships still dominate the area and may be leaking residual low-level radiation in to the surrounding space. A full sensor study of these wrecks may yield useful and enlightening results, especially compared with energy readings derived from activation of Drifter Ships' primary weapon and recorded by sensor logs during the battle. A full study might consider the range of Drifter Ships apparently impacted by sudden shield loss to the nearest affected wreck to provide further evidence (or lack thereof) of any causal link. We may have exposed a weakness in Drifter technology, through mere happenstance or through divine intervention; either way evidence needs to be carefully examined to corroborate any theory to determine an effective counter to the Drifter threat.
Yes it would be highly counterproductive to do so. But from early reports it seems very few have witnessed the full event (Light,Sounds And Weakened Drifters) With most just seeing weakend drifters. I also support the theory that it is residual energy from the wrecks. However it could be the way their weapon and shield systems work that it was caused by to many there at once and was their own fault effectively short-circuiting their shields somehow.
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bardghost Isu
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Posted - 2015.07.01 12:09:58 -
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Corraidhin Farsaidh wrote:Archbishop Abraxas wrote:Congratulations to all Amarrian faithful and allied forces who made history by being the first and only (to-date) active fleet who has defeated an entire Drifter Armada.
I have heard that previously, it would take the equivalent of two Archon class carriers to defeat a squad of just 2 drifter battleships. The fact that 100 were slain, shows the Might of our most Holy God and his Empire.
Now we must wait for an Amarr Certified News release (none of that Scope rubbish). And I've heard that a single well fit ship can play tag with the Drifter BS at range and destroy them with ease one on one. I seem to recall seeing camera drone footage of such too. I wonder if this is still the case though since they learn and adapt, be wary of your assumptions of superiority lest they learn and adapt before the next fleet engagement.
With them learning and adapting, Could that be the real reason CONCORD have taken no action so far so when the time comes they can destroy the majority of drifter forces with ease ? |

bardghost Isu
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Posted - 2015.07.01 12:20:40 -
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Corraidhin Farsaidh wrote:bardghost Isu wrote:Corraidhin Farsaidh wrote:Archbishop Abraxas wrote:Congratulations to all Amarrian faithful and allied forces who made history by being the first and only (to-date) active fleet who has defeated an entire Drifter Armada.
I have heard that previously, it would take the equivalent of two Archon class carriers to defeat a squad of just 2 drifter battleships. The fact that 100 were slain, shows the Might of our most Holy God and his Empire.
Now we must wait for an Amarr Certified News release (none of that Scope rubbish). And I've heard that a single well fit ship can play tag with the Drifter BS at range and destroy them with ease one on one. I seem to recall seeing camera drone footage of such too. I wonder if this is still the case though since they learn and adapt, be wary of your assumptions of superiority lest they learn and adapt before the next fleet engagement. With them learning and adapting, Could that be the real reason CONCORD have taken no action so far so when the time comes they can destroy the majority of drifter forces with ease ? I certainly wouldn't put it past them to use us as self funding guinea pigs who act first and think later.
Agreed |

bardghost Isu
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Posted - 2015.07.01 16:27:19 -
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Corraidhin Farsaidh wrote:Brandi Wiseman wrote:Corraidhin Farsaidh wrote:Archbishop Abraxas wrote:Congratulations to all Amarrian faithful and allied forces who made history by being the first and only (to-date) active fleet who has defeated an entire Drifter Armada.
I have heard that previously, it would take the equivalent of two Archon class carriers to defeat a squad of just 2 drifter battleships. The fact that 100 were slain, shows the Might of our most Holy God and his Empire.
Now we must wait for an Amarr Certified News release (none of that Scope rubbish). And I've heard that a single well fit ship can play tag with the Drifter BS at range and destroy them with ease one on one. I seem to recall seeing camera drone footage of such too. I wonder if this is still the case though since they learn and adapt, be wary of your assumptions of superiority lest they learn and adapt before the next fleet engagement. Drifters were once susceptible to ECM and sniping tactics but they have as you surmised adapted and now fit an ECCM fit which boosts their sensor strength to unjammable proportions. I also understand that their super weapon can now fire at targets up to 500km away. Those scans were to detect our capabilities and respond accordingly. A particularly disturbing thought is that they may have sent that fleet in (100 seems an awfully even number) just to test the response and performance whilst learning new tactics. People are assuming this was a huge fleet and a great success. What if this is simply one if the Vidette ( or whichever it was) scout groups?
If so then even running can't save us.
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bardghost Isu
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Posted - 2015.07.01 20:28:38 -
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Corraidhin Farsaidh wrote:Apparently they are blocking gates via entosis now too. People had better get used to scanning down wormholes for escape routes.
Wait when did this start happening ? |
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bardghost Isu
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Posted - 2015.07.01 20:47:15 -
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Corraidhin Farsaidh wrote:bardghost Isu wrote:Corraidhin Farsaidh wrote:Apparently they are blocking gates via entosis now too. People had better get used to scanning down wormholes for escape routes.
Wait when did this start happening ? Check the Barira traffic control thread. I had my suspicions after the first report and they have been confirmed.
Can you link me the thread can't seem to find it.
Don't worry found it |

bardghost Isu
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Posted - 2015.07.01 20:57:54 -
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Seems more coincidental timings to me there have been problems with the nodes the last few days and it just came back up at same time they warped off. I'd expect to see more posts about it happenning if it were the case, Although do keep your eye's out incase it's not coincidence. |
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